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	<title>Comments on: cdrtools vs cdrkit: The India-Pakistan of CD/DVD burning tools(Linux Only)</title>
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		<title>By: Aby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 18:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear, the truth is cdrkit is buggy as told by the #1 comment . today, Brasero or most GUI apps are compiled against cdrkit and many times there are failed DVD burning sessions. there is a cdrtools version of packages available for Debian(although, you may need to rebuild package from debianized source) here:

http://ppa.launchpad.net/brandonsnider/cdrtools/ubuntu/pool/main/c/cdrtools/

My Best Hope is Mr.Joerg Schillies Work  be continued but with a plausible solution- bring the license mess solved without defending cddl . this may help FOSS. :)
BTW, there is another project : &quot;Cdrskin&quot; :
http://libburnia-project.org/wiki/Cdrskin
&quot;Xorriso&quot; et al depends on libisoburn..
Namasthey, Gaurish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear, the truth is cdrkit is buggy as told by the #1 comment . today, Brasero or most GUI apps are compiled against cdrkit and many times there are failed DVD burning sessions. there is a cdrtools version of packages available for Debian(although, you may need to rebuild package from debianized source) here:</p>
<p><a href="http://ppa.launchpad.net/brandonsnider/cdrtools/ubuntu/pool/main/c/cdrtools/" rel="nofollow">http://ppa.launchpad.net/brandonsnider/cdrtools/ubuntu/pool/main/c/cdrtools/</a></p>
<p>My Best Hope is Mr.Joerg Schillies Work  be continued but with a plausible solution- bring the license mess solved without defending cddl . this may help FOSS. <img src='http://www.gaurishsharma.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
BTW, there is another project : &#8220;Cdrskin&#8221; :<br />
<a href="http://libburnia-project.org/wiki/Cdrskin" rel="nofollow">http://libburnia-project.org/wiki/Cdrskin</a><br />
&#8220;Xorriso&#8221; et al depends on libisoburn..<br />
Namasthey, Gaurish.</p>
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		<title>By: user</title>
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		<dc:creator>user</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 18:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After trying to burn dvd-rw with wodim:
/dev/sr0: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 0
The disk became useless.
Now I lost a disk (some money on it), time, time and time. And got anger instead.
And not because a hardware failure, not because there is no good software available, but because some &quot;idiotic philosophical community bullshit&quot; problem. Why put inferior software (that is known to be inferior !!!), just because of what text it is supplied with, or who made it? Thats sooooooooo stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After trying to burn dvd-rw with wodim:<br />
/dev/sr0: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 0<br />
The disk became useless.<br />
Now I lost a disk (some money on it), time, time and time. And got anger instead.<br />
And not because a hardware failure, not because there is no good software available, but because some &#8220;idiotic philosophical community bullshit&#8221; problem. Why put inferior software (that is known to be inferior !!!), just because of what text it is supplied with, or who made it? Thats sooooooooo stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Rohan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 04:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice read Thanks for the article</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice read Thanks for the article</p>
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		<title>By: Keshav</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keshav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about GNU xorriso http://scdbackup.sourceforge.net/xorriso_eng.html ? I think that will replace cdrkit soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about GNU xorriso <a href="http://scdbackup.sourceforge.net/xorriso_eng.html" rel="nofollow">http://scdbackup.sourceforge.net/xorriso_eng.html</a> ? I think that will replace cdrkit soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Harden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Harden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 22:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah nothing like the &quot;real background&quot; from an unbiased source...  *sheesh*  

I have no ill will toward either party, and this is the type of open source bickering that keeps the linux from becoming a mainstream desktop.  I use Debian and they certainly contributed to this mess, but in the end, users can go get the sources from the original if they run into problems -- I haven&#039;t and for simplicity will keep using the default package set.  But if I do have problems, I know where the original cdrtools source is...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah nothing like the &#8220;real background&#8221; from an unbiased source&#8230;  *sheesh*  </p>
<p>I have no ill will toward either party, and this is the type of open source bickering that keeps the linux from becoming a mainstream desktop.  I use Debian and they certainly contributed to this mess, but in the end, users can go get the sources from the original if they run into problems &#8212; I haven&#8217;t and for simplicity will keep using the default package set.  But if I do have problems, I know where the original cdrtools source is&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: schily</title>
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		<dc:creator>schily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 19:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it seems that you are a just another victim of FUD against 
OSS :-(

Not cdrtools did change the license first but cdrtools was attacked
by a Debian packager (Eduard Bloch) This person before did
publish a lot of FUD against the project already and introduced
bugs into the Debian variant of cdrtools. The license change was
a _reaction_ on the attacks from Mr. Bloch and definitely not the 
cause.

Mr. Bloch is a social problem for OSS and he did cause a lot of trouble....

He did introduce a lot more bugs into the forks and soon stopped
working on it. By doing this, he confirms that he does not have the
needed skills for working on a program suite like cdrtools. Before
he did claim he knows everything better than the original author.

Every user may decide himself on whether he will follow the ill
religious claims from Mr. Bloch and use a broken fork or whether
he likes to use the well maintained original software. 

There is definitely no legal problem with cdrtools, the Sun legal
department  makes it very clear that there is no such problem.
THe fork however is in conflict with the Copyright law and thus cannot
be distributed legally.

BTW: the CDDL was not made intentinally incompatible to the GPL,
but the GPLv3 was made intentionally incompatible with the GPL.
Nobodiy seems to care about this problem.....

See http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/linux-dist.html for the real background.

If you like to do us the OSS community a favor, put some effort
in helping to tell others about what realy happened. I am working
on OSS since 1982 and I still do and I will of course do anything 
that is needed to make sure that my software stays usable for
the community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it seems that you are a just another victim of FUD against<br />
OSS <img src='http://www.gaurishsharma.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Not cdrtools did change the license first but cdrtools was attacked<br />
by a Debian packager (Eduard Bloch) This person before did<br />
publish a lot of FUD against the project already and introduced<br />
bugs into the Debian variant of cdrtools. The license change was<br />
a _reaction_ on the attacks from Mr. Bloch and definitely not the<br />
cause.</p>
<p>Mr. Bloch is a social problem for OSS and he did cause a lot of trouble&#8230;.</p>
<p>He did introduce a lot more bugs into the forks and soon stopped<br />
working on it. By doing this, he confirms that he does not have the<br />
needed skills for working on a program suite like cdrtools. Before<br />
he did claim he knows everything better than the original author.</p>
<p>Every user may decide himself on whether he will follow the ill<br />
religious claims from Mr. Bloch and use a broken fork or whether<br />
he likes to use the well maintained original software. </p>
<p>There is definitely no legal problem with cdrtools, the Sun legal<br />
department  makes it very clear that there is no such problem.<br />
THe fork however is in conflict with the Copyright law and thus cannot<br />
be distributed legally.</p>
<p>BTW: the CDDL was not made intentinally incompatible to the GPL,<br />
but the GPLv3 was made intentionally incompatible with the GPL.<br />
Nobodiy seems to care about this problem&#8230;..</p>
<p>See <a href="http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/linux-dist.html" rel="nofollow">http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/linux-dist.html</a> for the real background.</p>
<p>If you like to do us the OSS community a favor, put some effort<br />
in helping to tell others about what realy happened. I am working<br />
on OSS since 1982 and I still do and I will of course do anything<br />
that is needed to make sure that my software stays usable for<br />
the community.</p>
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